representative john leboutillier, a former republican congressman. and pat caddell, former pollster for jimmy carter. and doug schoen former pollster for bill clinton. doug, the numbers you saw on the screen, since the conventions, the president has gained four and romney has lost two, a swing of six points. >> that is where the race is. there are some polls in the swing states showing outsize leaps for obama the ink they are over sampling democrats and the mainstream media is away from what the race is. that is, a close contest. the president is about 48 or 49 percent approval and vote share. the governor's campaign has lost support. he is down around 43 percent. the 47 percent combined with the drift in the campaign has reduced his vote share, but it is still a a race, and the debate will be critical. >>gregg: this poll shows president obama at 49 and 44 and that can chain instantly. some of the media have written governor romney's obituary, this is premature. >> the media polls, the mainstream media uses the state polls like the new form of negati